And official discredited:

http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2010/02/the-lancet-retracts-paper-linking-mmr-vaccines-and-autism.ars

Good to hear... http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/

really?

I don't think that Jenny McCarthy went about it the right way. but the MMR is only 1 of many environmental factors and on set Autism, is a soul thing that brings on Autism? Hell no. But it is a contributing factor to it. I can say this in confidence because I have two boys at home that their Autism was brought on by the MMR.

Mentat wrote:the MMR is only 1 of many environmental factors and on set Autism... it is a contributing factor to it. I can say this in confidence because I have two boys at home that their Autism was brought on by the MMR.

Not to be an asshole but this is not convincing evidence of a correlation.

Now maybe when we reach the point when we are looking at specific people's genomes (maybe the shear size of these studies dilute any statistical significance of a true, albeit small, correlation in certain individuals) the current body of scientific evidence might be thrown out the window. But until then, "there has been no scientific study to date to show that thiomersal in vaccines is harmful or leads to autism."

As I said, I think they are MANY contributing factos to what can onset Autism. Genetic makeup no doubt is a major factor in this. But I cannot, nor will I discount that something in the MMR. Not even so much what they claim it to be CAUSES autism. It might start a chain reaction to it. but I don't think it's a CAUSE.

as I said I have two perfectly healthy boys who were developing AHEAD of where they were supposed to until they got the MMR shot. they both regressed dramaticly and one never caught up until two years ago, and he's 11 years old now.

I did not say that it was a soul cause. but it was a contributing factor, and only that.

Believe what you will, I know what I know.

ancaritha wrote:And official discredited:

http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2010/02/the-lancet-retracts-paper-linking-mmr-vaccines-and-autism.ars

Did you even read the title of this article? The link between MMR vaccine and Autism has been officially discredited.

Key highlights:
Wakefield was found to have acted unethically and conducted irresponsible research in coming to his—now thoroughly discredited—conclusions. According to Dr. Richard Horton, editor of The Lancet, "It's the most appalling catalog and litany of some the most terrible behavior in any research and is therefore very clear that it has to be retracted."

It was in a subsequent press conference where Wakefield stated that he believed that the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccines should not be given as a single shot, and instead be broken up into three shots given a year apart to reduce the chances of autism. The British media had a field day with this, and inaccurate reports spread across the pond to the US, where parents feared that the MMR vaccine could be the cause for the dramatic rise in autism cases.

As other scientists began looking for a link between vaccines and autism, study after study found there was none. In 2008, after numerous studies discredited the original work, researchers sought to put it to bed once and for all; using advanced technology that was developed in the intervening 10 years, they carried out the original research again and found no link.

While science was doing what it does best, other motives for Wakefield's work came to light. In late 2006, investigative journalists in London found that Wakefield's work was paid for by a legal team that was in the process of suing vaccine manufacturers, and that this same team represented some of the children who took part in the study. New evidence that came to life in the GMC ethics review found that a year before the study was published, Wakefield himself applied for a patent for a new vaccine that would eliminate both the measles virus and treat inflammatory bowel disease.

Clearly they don't live in my house an witness this shit happen.

I think it's more the effect of how many vaccine the body is taking in at once, more than the fact of something being inside them. I've known many people and animals when given vaccines they can change rather dramatically... if given too much too fast. I mean they had only used 32 children, what if it's a .01 or .001 chance and Mentat just had the rotten luck of being that .001/.0001